Discover The Strategy That Builds Your Wealth and Reduces Risk by 85%
Spreads on futures contracts can reduce your risk by up to 85%, they trend for long periods, are easier to analyze, and have preferred tax treatment.
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Jim H.
“The system is really impressive. I’ve made money with it everyday I’ve used it. It’s low stress like Dave says.”
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5 Facts about Trading Futures Spreads
1.
Technical analysis is simple as it gets on futures spreads. It’s easier to tell direction, trends last longer so you can use trend following methods. TA tools that used to work on individual stocks before computer and AI algo’s still work really well on futures spreads.
2.
Spread trading has one huge advantage over any other: Distribution of returns form a bell curve. In a study of over 1,000 days returns shows that the distribution of returns on financial futures contracts form a bell curve (hence our name). Doing so reduces directional risk by up to 85%. That bell curve is visible on any time frame so you know exactly what’s happening. Our proprietary TTC Bell Curve script/indicator gives you data on the formation of these bell curves in real-time for any futures pair.
3.
There are historical limits to how much the spread will be likely to move. Over long periods of time (years) future and ETF spreads have absolute highs and lows that frame price action so you can actually tell what is ‘high’ and what is ‘low’. Trends tend to last a long time as well, like this one from 2018 to the end of 2021:
ES/YM Long Example
1> ES up | YM sideways
2> ES sideways | YM down
3> ES down | YM down more
4> ES up | YM up less
5> ES down | YM up
4.
There are multiple ways to win. If you are long a stock, ETF, future or crypto, etc the only way you can make money is if it increases in price. When you’re long a futures spread there are 5 different and unique ways the spread can move and you’ll make money. Any one of these scenarios will increase the value of the spread you are long (see left) so you have more ways to win.
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Tax advantages can’t be ignored. When you use the futures (technically called ‘Section 1256 contracts’) 60% of your profits are taxed at the long-term capital rate of just 15%. The rest of your profits, 40%, are taxed at short-term rates for your tax bracket. Example: If you’re in the 35% tax bracket, every $100,000 gain in your trading account using futures is a savings of $12,000 at tax time. That’s a significant savings.
Learn more about futures or pairs trades spreads from Tom Sosnoff, founder of ThinkorSwim and TastyWorks:
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Learn more about futures spreads from David Lehman, Director Education for the CME Group, largest futures exchange in the world:
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Unsolicited Client Comments
Hi Dave,
Pleased to meet you finally. I am a huge fan of yours. I have purchased several of your courses over the years and have always felt that you delivered far more than the cost of the course. Im not sure of the names of the courses, however the first one I bought was in 2008, you were teaching Iron Condors on ETF's and you had a whole bonus section on how to make money with stocks. I then purchased several years later, the 3 legged box spread.. Having proceeded down a different path for many years, I decided earlier this year to re-visit the box spread course, which led me onto your 2016 course trading the YM/NQ/ES/RTY as well as the Treasuries... I completed that course last month and decided to take the plunge and pony up to pay the $3500.00 for the TTC course and software.
You mentioned in one of your Videos, that the reason you continue to teach even after all these years, is that you have a desire to share with the trading community your years of experience so that it is not wasted. I just wanted to Acknowledge your commitment and Thank you from US your loyal supporters. You have taught me an incredible amount over the years. I am truly grateful for your efforts..
Kind Regards,
-Mark M.
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Tom B.
“…just trading the system gave me my first 4-figure trading day… $1,037.50”
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Vince S.
“Well, entered my first paper trade yesterday, short Mini ES… long mini YM… made profit $452.”
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Merrill C.
“GM in short at -736 out at -781 for 267.00 for the day ”
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Jim H.
“short at -560 … out at -712 +$690 profit”
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Ben S.
“They are very powerful strategies…the strategies is (sic) worth 1000 times the course that we invested in.”
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Stuart K.
“…on my practice account these trades have yielded $2200 in profits over the past two days.”
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Abe W.
“I know Dave over 10 years and he has been a blessing for me and my family!! It takes a village to be a trader I made $215 and so happy”
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Mark F.
“After a week of trading real money, I’m now up $567, and that’s after a silly, stupid first day… I toned it down and followed the indicators…”
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Changis
“Just wanted to let you know that I closed out my first live trade… my net return on this trade was $2,037…that’s a period of 9-days”
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Alex G.
“I’m still in the short trade… P/L was yesterday $5000 and today $6000.”
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Jag P.
“I am 64 and I know I have bought a to of systems over the years… Daves message doesn’t leave me with any doubt that this system should be the only system to master now and forget the rest”
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Jeff N.
“I’ve spent… I’m sure 25k-30k on trading education… and I have rarely received the level of attention and customer service Dave delivers.”
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Phil T.
“Forgive my French, but that (session) just absolutely F-ING blew me away!!! I am SOOO VERY GLAD I joined, I am very excited and very grateful that you shared this technique!”
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Lucie B.
“One Micro each way MES/MYM, paper trade. Long at 10am at -595 / Out at 14:07 at -498 / Profit of $82”
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Richard L.
“Good day for my two trades … I’m up about $600 today, over $1000 total for the trades ”
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Wayne S.
“I entered at -538 and exited at -508, for +$120 on the position. This was a real money trade. I'm happy for only 30 mins in the trade.”
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Al S.
“My April scoreboard:
Winning trades: 9 for $3447.50
Losing trades: 3 for -$1232.50
Total trades: 12 for $2215.00.”
Steve A.
“Out +700 + 937.50 total $1637.50. I took two positions…”
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Kieran C.
“I’m blown away by the content. Your delivery and instruction is top notch. You truly are opening eyes and changing lives with this.”
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Watch-over-the-shoulder program. When a trade is posted you’ll be able to see when we got in, when we got out and the P/L on each trade.
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7 years of research and development
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Receive custom TTC futures spread scripts - 7 years in development - including the Premium Bell Curve Oscillator and Dominance Indicator
Receive Previously Live TTC/Guaranteed Success Trading Seminar - 6 Hours (recorded)
Receive daily (Money-Thursday) Wrap-up and analysis videos
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7 years of research and development
NO MONTHLY FEES
One year of email support
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Receive LIFETIME access to the Trade the Curve Community for support, encouragement and assistance on Slack
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Watch-over-the-shoulder program. When a trade is posted you’ll be able to see when we got in, when we got out and the P/L on each trade.
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Anything else should I know?
If I day trade don’t I need a $25k minimum balance?
How do you recommend starting using the system?
— According to FINRA and the SEC the Pattern Day Trader (PDT) rule does not apply if you use futures contracts to day trade. You can actually start with as little as $500 in day trading margin, but we recommend a higher amount to get started.
— If you’re a beginner or an experienced trader we recommend starting by watching the TTC/GSTS Seminar several times, and if clarification is needed, asking questions in the Slack Community channel. Then, after you’ve setup your TOS or Tradingview scripts we recommend doing at least 100 practice trades on a demo or paper trading account before committing to real money trades. Practice really does make perfect, just ask any athlete or professional trader who knows the value of practice.
Who should NOT purchase this system?
Can I purchase just the Slack community access?
— If you’re generally impatient, don’t like learning new things, are un-focused, or are under financial pressure to make a lot of money quickly then this system is not for you.
— Unfortunately, the answer is no. The reason is we often will update scripts and provide other resources to the community that is meant only for those who have the system.
I don’t understand what makes trading futures spreads different or better than just trading individual issues
— First, futures spreads trend… sometimes for long periods of time. hours, days, weeks, even months. Today, because of HFT, AI, bots and computers doing most of the trading you’re lucky if you get a trend to last more than an hour or a few days on individual issues without a large reversal.
—Second, all the technical analysis you do on individual issues works better on spreads… they behave well on obvious support and resistance levels, and to other patterns.
— Third, after you start trading futures spreads, you’ll begin to feel a lot more confident in your analysis because it just works better on spreads.
— Fourth, institutional traders, market makers and HNWI have more sophisticated tools, information and data than you do and they hunt for your trades in the market. If you’ve ever had the experience of looking at a trade and the setup looks great but as soon as you get in it goes in the completely opposite direction… that’s institutional traders taking your money. With spreads that can’t tell if you’re long or short (because you’re both) and can’t manipulate you like they can if you’re trading individual issues.
— There are other benefits of trading futures spreads, please scroll back up and read this page over again to find more.
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMERS
THIS SYSTEM TEACHES LEVERAGED TRADING WHICH INVOLVES SIGNIFICANT
RISK OF LOSS AND IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ALL INVESTORS
REQUIRED CFTC DISCLAIMER
CFTC RULE 4.41 – HYPOTHETICAL OR SIMULATED PERFORMANCE RESULTS SUCH AS THOSE DESCRIBED HEREIN HAVE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS. UNLIKE AN ACTUAL PERFORMANCE RECORD, SIMULATED RESULTS DO NOT REPRESENT ACTUAL TRADING. ALSO, SINCE THE TRADES HAVE NOT BEEN EXECUTED, THE RESULTS MAY HAVE UNDER-OR-OVER COMPENSATED FOR THE IMPACT, IF ANY, OF CERTAIN MARKET FACTORS, SUCH AS LACK OF LIQUIDITY, SIMULATED TRADING PROGRAMS IN GENERAL ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE DESIGNED WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT. NO REPRESENTATION IS BEING MADE THAT ANY ACCOUNT WILL OR IS LIKELY TO ACHIEVE PROFIT OR LOSSES SIMILAR TO THOSE SHOWN.
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Common Questions
We understand you’re skeptical and we have the answers
Do I need previous trading experience to be able to use this strategy?
— We do not teach basic trading skills so having some trading experience is helpful … but not required.
—If you’re a complete beginner in trading I will provide you with recommended resources to get you started.
— If you’ve traded stocks, options or crypto you’ll pick this up very quickly.
How much trading capital will I need for this strategy?
— We recommend a minimum of $5,000 (for day trading futures ) and up to $100,000 or more for trading both futures and ETF spreads.
— We have members with small accounts and some with very large trading accounts of $500,000 or more.
What’s Your win rate percentage?
— Win ‘rate’ is not important as winning. Because if I make 10x on a winning trade and only lose 1x on a losing trade I can have a win rate of 45% and still be profitable.
— We prefer winning in the long run. We teach how to win more trades in the “Trade the Curve” course. On average, once someone has mastered this strategy, they win 90% of their trades.
I never heard of this strategy before. How do I know it’s legit and not something you just made up?
— No, we didn’t make it up. The CME Group is the world’s leading derivatives marketplace and the issuer of the major financial index, interest rate, energy, metals and agricultural futures contracts. They have a few (but not many) videos and papers on futures spread trading. Here’s a PDF on the S&P500 vs DOW spread. And a video on using micro-emini futures for spreading is above.
— You may not heard of it before because very few traders know anything about trading futures spreads and very few teach it.
— It’s a well established strategy used mostly by sophisticated traders and hedge funds. But we’ve made it simple so anyone can trade it. We trade the S&P 500, DOW, Russell2k and Nasdaq futures spreads.
I’ve bought a lot of trading systems in the past and they let me down. How do I know this one actually works and do you support it?
— Like Jeff N. (see above) the majority of our members had purchased between 3 and 10 trading systems in the past. But like Jag P. says, “…this should be the only system to master now and forget the rest.”
— We’re picky about who we let into the community. It’s small now (<100) and we get along great and support each other. Our founder, Dave, is there every day answering questions, does analysis in his daily “Wrap-up” videos, and providing personal support at no extra charge because he loves this community and spread trading.
What’s your refund policy?
— When you join, you’ll receive all the custom scripts we use, the training and access to the community depending on the plan purchased. These are all digital items and services that cannot be returned like a pair of shoes that do not fit. So we ask that you ask as many questions as you want prior to purchasing by emailing us here. However, refunds are granted, without question, within 30 days of purchase.
I see other programs promising $10k profits in a few days. What’s your promise?
— We promise that you will have the very best, world-class tools and instruction for winning with futures spreads.
— If you are too young to know any better or just plain gullible enough to fall for those big claims of massive profits in trading practically overnight then this is probably not the right program for you.
— We’re seasoned traders with over 40+ years of experience trading stocks, options, crypto, futures, commodities, interest rates and more. The kinds of promotions that promise that you’ll make a certain amount of money in a specific number of days or weeks are not telling the truth. Trading success, more than anything else, is about discipline and psychology.
How do you recommend trading futures spreads?
— My preference is swing trades (trades lasting more then a day) and so I’m focused on H4 , Daily and even Weekly charts. That’s not always possible though and so some trades are much shorter in duration. However, many members day trade the spreads. There’s at least one good opportunity each day for a good day trade and several opportunities each month for swing trades.
What You Get in Detail
Developed over 7 years, and over $400,000 in testing of real trades these tools and resources have been created by hand just for trading futures spreads, honed to perfection by trial and error, long sleepless nights and finger-crushing coding so you don’t have to.
Custom Trading the Curve Scripts for TOS and Tradingview. These scripts are not ‘canned’, there were developed from direct observations of the spreads, first honed in an Excel™ spreadsheet the coded over a 7 year period until perfection. If charged separately the cost would be $7500.
The Trade the Curve, Guaranteed Success Trading Seminar (GSTS) - 6 Live Recorded Sessions. This live seminar took place over a 6 week period, once each week to live participants. It takes you by the hand, step-by-step and provides you with the training you need to be successful trading futures spreads. Live participants paid up to $3497 each to be in these sessions. You get the recordings INCLUDED with your membership at no extra charge. Sessions are approx. 1 hour each.
Watch-over-the shoulder program: Dave posts his trades in the Slack channel. When he trades you’ll be able to see when he got in, when he got out and the P/L on each trade. NOTE: Posting of trades is for educational purposes only and are not, are not meant to be, or suggested to be, personal recommendations.
Get LIFETIME access to Trade the Curve Community on Slack, depending on the plan purchased. This is the bright shiny gem of the system. A vibrant, helpful, supportive, non-judgmental community with resources, wisdom and extras, this is what separates average traders from great. I thought hard about pricing this at $250/mo on day 1, but decided to do it at no charge for each member. That’s a $3000 savings in the first year alone and $6000 in two years. (‘Elite’ and ‘The Works’ Plans only - no monthly fee)
Daily (Monday-Thursday) analysis in a short, easy to digest, actionable Wrap-up video each evening after the market close. Each video is approx. 3-5 minutes and gives you the highlights of the trading day, spread analysis and insights into trading it better. Over 200+ times year you’ll look over our founder’s shoulder and see what he sees so you can make better trading decisions. Value? $520/yr
You’ll receive access to a private, password protected area of this website where you’ll be able to view the trainings, scripts and more. Available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Any new videos, tutorials, scripts and resource materials will be added there for convenience of access and will act as a resource for the system.